Raavan Vs Raavanan

The debate is clearly lyrical quality

Gulzar saab refers to the tamil lyrics something for easy understanding

"kodu potta konnu podu
veli potta vetti podu"

For any stop line drawn Kill him/them (maarne kha)
For further fencing Slice him/them (Kaat ne kha)

Gulzar saab got confused with this 'ulti' baath and refers his lyrics to MR & ARR for clarification.

Ey hawa phe chalti hai ghori paron se bhi halki hai re (She floats like air and she is as lighter than feathers)
Dahi se bhi khatti hai.. suna hai dahi bhi kal khi hai re (She is as softer as curd and the curd is just a day longer)

MR & ARR admires Gulzar saab's work and replies "aap tho hamara kavingar ka jaga pe hain " (As you are in our own Kavingar Kannadaasan's place). Sweet, simple, flawless and very rich in poetic sense. But VM is not to be blamed as we have given him the prior composed hindi tunes and not much scope for development.

Well in any language/poetry/lyrics the context has to be seen in whole not so overly critical on every lines. VM is a known violent poet on both counts he propels very strongly

Show no mercy to your detractors(kodu pottaalum seri veli pottaalum seri), Finish them off!

And Gulzar saab leaves the place with a latest song playing in the background "kazhuthillai kazhuthillai athu kannadaasan ezhuthu"

Kannadaasan shouts from the grave 'evanda avan en ezhuthai anoushka kaluthodoa equate pannathu" j/k.

Decade's BEST

Was responding to two categories in Forum hub’s Decades best thread

Movie of the Decade – Kaadhal & Paruthiveeran (Nominations) -Voted for PV.
Album of the Decade – Kannathil Muthamittal












It was a mere coincidence or a thought transference or a thanksgiving have gone straight into the voting head of “Rising Sun” to telecast both “Kaadhal” & “Paruthiveeran” in Sun & Kalaignar TV’s consecutively. I know PV is getting telecast but Kaadhal is a big surprise when I entered my house to catch that Marriage Scene the lady from the balcony turns her hubby “hey look at that” and exactly my wife did that from kitchen too. I have watched it before and I can very well recall all those dropped off scenes. Bharath’s(Muruga) friend who shares a Bachelors mansion in
triplicane aiding them for marriage is quiet perceivable but the whole gang enjoining is off-the-wall.

“pura koondu pola inga muppathu roomu andha muppathilum voovonnilum 3 peru maamu…”

So 30x3 = 90 ? Interesting song by JS look what all have they done by just a phone call picked them from marriage (street), arranged for the grand reception, stage, music(local thaara thappata), all dances (the couple), a rented house & a mechanic job for Bharath all in just a day... How do I say this? The shop owner ask Bharath to leave early as he has just got married. Sandhya, Bharath, his friend all are shown in the same costumes. His chittappu comes to know about Stanley’s shop find their house and rescues her Chittappu thanks the house owner lady. All in one day is bayangara reel vidurathu, Highly Impossible athuvum singara chennaila, illogical & undeniably cinematic. Oru pattula enna vena suthalmndradhu voliya mattengudhu….Cinema edukkuravanga cinematica than iruppainghannu sollalam. But the terrific narrative of a very natural and realistic movie have taken a slip. Balaji Sakthivel, the director whom I adore could have written much more fittingly specifically the sequence of getting married and caught….

Had my late lunch and glued for PV. Frankly speaking every every every thing is brilliant in this film, the choice of characters/face/voices, accent, costumes, location,sets, music,comedy, camera, editing those flashbacks scenes, history/geography/life saving treatment... Lots of perfect ground work have been done in narrating the script. Hardly a sore moment. The relation, bond between Saravanan and Karthi is fantastic and lively. Saravanan’s first and best performance he can act as well.. Priyamani was bothering unattendedly(like the advts in between) but later I realized why she always behaves like a aruvaal . She scoot the lorry drivers paruthi veeran pera kettavudane paanjitaaingha. What a mind blowing debut performance by Karthi dwelled it. Ameer cleverly brings back the gruesome “Veeran” to flashlight while he chops her in to pieces which everyone have almost forgotten. Gripping & a Remarkable movie. Splendid performance by everyone. Kudos to Ameer! Awaiting for his next release Yogi. Vote pottadhu correct dhaannu indha viewingla thelivaiduchi and there are 3 others who share my opinion. Thank you folks!


Next is Album of the Decade:
I flag for Kannathil Muthamittal and Its my deeming pleasure to clarify it. I have imposed 4 now 5 key factors how it could be the best of the decade.
1. Originality
2. Significance
3. Range and depth of the output
4. Durability
5. Lyrics
Folks do have problem with only two songs “Sundari” and “Senyore” & Chinmayee’s diction while the rest of the songs they believe are the best. I have applied those key factors and found both these songs are apt situational nos. and scores good in 1,2,3 & 5 while it lacks 4 for some cushy ears but the song has so much meaning. This is not a nursery rhyme nor the composer tried to perfume. It narrates the funny behavior of the little girl and their parents true love towards thier child – Amudha (adopted). Have to give a special mention to Kavipperarasar Vairamuthu for pouring his heart out for the whole album.

The song has a beautiful accordion opening and flute/guitar usage. The Accordian is woven in and out of the song. The “thuru thuruness” of the girl is maintained in the song. Ist Interlude is vivid observe how flute progresses and followed by clap sounds, kids chorus, variety of voices and the orchestral pieces (violin/cellos).
“Senyore” is based on Srilankan baila genre, singhalese lyrics written by BH Abdul Hameed. It’s a fun, cheerful song the guy tries to date a girl and the girl proposes him to meet his husband. It is aired on car’s radio while they were in Srilanka in search of her real mother. Fantastic!

To the other question Chinmayee was just 16 and a debutant to sing that song. Should be a tough task for anyone and she have come out really well both on diction and redition. The veteran singer KS Chitra herself called and appreciated her.

Well the question is not about how great are these song individually rather how lively/justifiable is these songs to the script. The greatness lies in the music for its universal appeal for the what the script demands
Parent’s Love,
Children’s Care,
Refugees Freedom &
World Peace.

Hats of to the trio Mani + ARR + VM!

Gleaming Ghazals

This is a classic Ghazal from Pakistani film Doraha(1967) and this particular song was composed by Ghazal Maestro Mehdi Hassan. The tune, structure sounds very familiar to me and upon repeated measured listening started singing ore naal... unnai naan.. incidentally. I thought it could be based on a similar raaga which I am a zippo for such comparisons. What caught my attention is that there are lots of allegation Shivaji's track "Sahana Saaral thoovudhu" to this could also be inspired and based on similar raaga. To my surprise the picturization of Shivaji's braggart version also has a striking similarity in terms of picturization, sets, serial lights, Piano, geometrical shapes of Glass frames, Grill designs, crystals, jewelleries luckybamboo, greeneries but Shreya, duet, chorus dance totally dismisses those similarities . ARR's piano interlude & alaaps. CHESS Board and Coins :)



I have checked Ore naal picturization also if you give a close look camera focus steadily on roof lights, grill designs, restaurant table, geometrical shapes like rectangle glass frames, circle nila/sun rays, triangular beach stands, tall posted lamps Atleast to me....



Fine, Irrespective of those similarities exist or not I am glad to find this awesome sountrack Doraha composed by Suhail Rana and get to know more about Ghazals - Mehdi Hassan & other counterparts. Check this song ...



some more : Hain Isi Mod per

This is their next film Armaan : Betaab Ho Udhar Tum

Beautiful!!

Cine Musicians U&T Felicitates A R Rahman

Tamil Cinema Gallery Link. Awesome!

Sun TV Coverage: Fantastic Show!!! All shared million praises for ARR. Long live the Legend!

The highlight is ARR's speech : Its all these aspirations put together made GOD to select me and collect these awards :clap: :clap: (HJ in tears)

Its really sad to miss Dr. SPB on this wonderful occassion, last year he gave a discretion speech when Water songs (3) were sent to Oscars. Straight from his heart! Thankyou Sir!!

And the coveted Oscar award goes to....

1. Mr. A R Rahman for Best Original Song Jai Ho "Slumdog Millionaire"

2. Mr. A R Rahman for Best Original Score Jai Ho "Slumdog Millionaire"

Congratulations MR. A R Rahman! clap clap. Congratulations for also winning GG & BAFTA. You certainly made all INDIANS particularly all tamilans proud! I really want to dedicate a very long appreciation post for all your extraordinary contribution to the Musical World but regret to inform you that I was totally distracted have to scrap the whole post "even your love over hate speech was twisted and bad-mouthed" and I am forced to believe that its impractical for any of your fans to embrace loveism over hate & all those school of thoughts. Please read the following article (better not I wish you remain the same lovable person ever for what others admire more than your music) This article is just a sample by a renowned writer completely discarded you and your entire discography as a "packaged marketing of catchy jingles" to and the demesne of bandwidth-bashing happening on the online world is highly disgustful and intolerable from what I know/followed all your works personally. But I tried to equate my actual intent in this post

"Jingle-Jangle Morning" by Sadanand Menon

Mr. Sadanand Menon, On behalf of all million/billion AR fans I would like to award you as a certified crackpot for the factual errors, copy-pasting wiki contents in your disdained article "Jingle-Jangle Morning" (btw, what does it mean?) published haphazardly by Outlook India. Wait! I am not insisting anyone on a throttled warning to waste an outlook id and spifflicate all of his other restricted pennings . He went on to extortionate ahead of all raja's extremist and decreed "Attack ..... bcoz Rahman got Oscars".

1. The story starts like this

Comparisons are odious. But in south India—and in Chennai at least you can’t duck the over 15-year-long debate on the comparative ‘genius’ of A.R. Rahman and his musical senior by twenty-three years, Ilaiyaraaja.

@#@#$&! IR made his debut in Annakili (1976) & ARR Roja in (1992) thats clearly copy-pasted. Its 16years you old diarist. Are you that poor in calculating the years itself. 23 years? on what count! 8 years scooped up.

2.For almost 10 years, Rahman continued to perform for Ilaiyaraaja, before Mani Ratnam handed him the baton for Roja (1992). And the rest, as they say, is history

Just curious! who is your history teacher or does "they" ever exist? From where did you embroil this piece of information and I would also like to know from which Rajas history book you find "he absorbed the barely 15-year-old Rahman as a keyboard player in his orchestra"
You mean to say that ARR was in IR's troupe for 10 left over year behind bushes. It was Rajiv Menon who referred ARR to MR thru his ad jingles and not by any of IR' compositions or by a group photo. MR handed the baton for Roja :rotfl:


Now the most odious comparison ever:

3.

Both have graduated from the Trinity College of Music- London, though Ilaiyaraaja bagged a gold medal there

Sourgrapes! Oru madham pudicha yaanaiya sothula maraikka mudiyumanna mudiyumnu nirubichirukkaangha. I will explain this story


Mr. Ramalinga Raju after establishing himself in the IT corporate world banged on to enroll CSC@gooduvaancheri branch vijayadasami scholarship offer for what just to affix a "GUI" certificate to his portfolio and its not RR actually an ardent devotee named rajaroll shamefully went on to publicize this monthly topper award in his website raajangam.com for open-ended years. Notably, others who have learned their craft and appeared for examination are renowned musicians like L Shankar, L Subramaniyam, etc… And another 1 in a 10000 student Mr. Harris Jeyaraj presented prestigious Trinity College of Music - LONDON 2007 awards MSV award - Ilayaraja award to all those students and teachers . Then you can imagine the authenicity of this Mountroad shop and how chicaned this honour was.


What certainly crimsoned Menon's mind or any other vavutherical parties are that there was also an another average/drop out student from the same branch egressed like a whiz kid, ramped up his own studio/platform, composed 200+ jingles reconstructed the movie songs & strategy and revolutionized the whole musical world with a debut album named Roja (1992). That was just a beginning.. What so awe-inspiring about this ne'er die phoenix is that he winged up to prove the whole macrocosm (person by person…territory by territory..)that he is the incontestable world-beater of global Music. Now you know what both IT & Hollywood global giants Apple, Warner Bros are queued up in front of his Panchatham Studio @ Chennai to get a nod from ARR. Chennai Cheers!

What do you call this Mr. Menon - qualification/cheap publicity/sheer talent,expertise or adeptness.

4. Where he makes a departure is in the polyphonic interludes. A typical example would be his amazing foot-tapper, ‘Rakkamma, Kaiyye Thattu...’ (Thalapathi, 1991), in which he moves with panache from a swiftly orchestrated popular folk tune to a serene, quiet solo classical with a deft, magical interlude of hummed bars.

evvalavu periya kandupudippu paarthiya. If someone who haven’t listened to any of ARR songs other than jingles nor bothered to check any of his album technicality/credit details or instead an online review what am I supposed to say! With the wide range of genres AR have composed every ARR song will shine out of such inane comparisons. rukkumani…thee thee, Kannalane, vande mataram till Rehna Tu.. Have you ever heard Bombay Theme - Is that also a "packaged marketing of catchy jingles"

ARR's pathways to Philosophy

T H E M A N - T H E M U S I C - T H E M A G I C

I have been listening to the following songs repeatedly as a mere check to the thread's title in TFM (ARR as a singer). Literally bowled over' A variety of excellent pick (never before):

1. Yeh Jo Desh Hai Tera (Swades/Desam) : Patriotism (Revered Call for NRI's)
2. Ararai Kodi Pergalil Oruvan (Ah..Aah): Ethnicity (Thanks giving)
3. Lukka Chuppi (Rang De Basanthi) : Mothers sentiment (Conversational type)
4. NewYork Nagaram (SOK) : Loneliness (A Fresh westernish attempt).

ARR has been vigilant & successful in bringing these emoticons in a right perspective with lots of innovations "ho hoi – chorus a kinda grief feel", "an encouraging kids chorus a.aah, mother-son alaap (sons death) LC & male- female chorus (Rememberance). The involvement (orchestration) he puts in his own tracks is spellbounding and very much obvious in the form of an extended instrumental Shehnai version, Intro/Lead Song . When I say "involvement" Its doesn’t mean that he selfishly reserves the best tracks nor pays less attention to other songs. (New talents are still introduced for potential movies & the tracks like TBBataye, Roobaroo, MVaa , Mayiliragae, Innisai, PPB,HHIPY Instrumental are experimental & superior as well) . His musical journey has a motivation depicting each and every attributes of human nature in a pure form. Now I wonder who decides the situation of a track or ARR himself gels deep and workout an appropriate point to describe his thinking. NYN for Surya is another perfect example. It is like a mix of Secular & Modern humanim he introduces into his composition everytime. As a proof he himself is a clean, ego-less, awesome personality who stick to his composition what it signifies. Disappointing such a great soulful singer(composer) haven't been noticed yet by the award juries where he has entered millions of hearts&minds with the other lead favourite singers.

This comprises only 2004-06 songs & Strictly Not for branded Inveterate :) I have purposely ignored JGM, Azaadi, TVT (GF) are similar to the above genres & AMMoula, Zikhr are religious & Khalbali, Fanaah songs are entertaining which I a feel odd for the above discussion.)